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The "Neon" Interference Problem
October 1935 Radio-Craft

October 1935 Radio-Craft

October 1935 Radio Craft Cover - RF Cafe[Table of Contents]

Wax nostalgic about and learn from the history of early electronics. See articles from Radio-Craft, published 1929 - 1953. All copyrights are hereby acknowledged.

Before there was radio, it really didn't matter much how much electromagnetic energy at any frequency was spewed into the air and into electric wires as long as the amplitude was not great enough to physically damage affected equipment. There was no need for an FCC or unintentional radiation limit regulations. It was not long after radio came along that the presence of electromagnetic interference (EMI) made itself painfully obvious due to its presence on audio as static. Motor brush arcing, electrical atmospheric phenomena (lightning, meteors), switching on and off of circuits, intermittent connections, nearby radio spurious emissions, high voltage transformers, and in this case, neon lighting were among the sources quickly identified. Depending on the size of the sign and length / diameter of the tubes, the voltage needed to trigger the neon gas into electroluminescence could be 12 kV or even more. At that level, especially with outdoor applications subject to high humidity and water condensation, even minor breaches in insulation can permit arcs to form between conductors and metal frames.

I clearly recall having received my first high voltage burn many moons ago while servicing an outdoor neon sign for a store in a strip plaza in Annapolis, Maryland. The next one occurred while troubleshooting a CRT power supply for a Precision Approach Radar (PAR) display in my USAF shop's MPN-13 mobile radar unit. It must have been that second one that finally taught me to be more careful since I don't think I've gotten whacked by anything more than 120 V since then ;-)

The "Neon" Interference Problem

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Fig. A - A typical neon sign display - indoor and outdoor.

The interference set up by neon signs involves problems which the Service Man does not ordinarily encounter.

J. Albert Lynch

A growing source of radio interference is the increasingly popular neon sign. In many cases the interference is so bad as to entirely ruin radio reception in the immediate vicinity while the sign is in operation.

The neon sign, from a practical point of view, is extremely simple. In order to service these signs for radio interference we need simply a very elementary idea of the construction and contents of the completed tube, a fair idea of the construction of the entire assembly, and a thoroughly sound idea of the wiring and sources of trouble.

Our first example of a neon tube (Fig. 1A) will be a length of glass tubing about 1/2-in. in diameter, and approximately 13 ins. long. We will now insert a wire into each end of the tube, seal off the ends, apply a vacuum pump and then after pumping, inject the required amount of neon gas and seal off the glass. We now have a simple neon tube. If we now connect a transformer, rated at several thousand volts, to these wire terminals (Fig. 1B) we will find that we have the usual red-glowing neon tube. We would now notice that the glass, except at the extreme ends, remained cool when operating. The ends would get quite warm and the wires extending inside the tube would, because of the electronic bombardment going on inside the tube, wear down and be short lived. For that reason instead of inserting a wire inside the tube we will now build up an electrode which will consist (Fig. 1C) of a metal plate surrounded by a mica sleeve inserted inside a glass envelope. A wire is now attached to the copper plate, brought out one end of the glass envelope and the envelope sealed off at that end, the other end being left open for attachment to the glass tubing used for the desired outline or letter. We now have arranged a terminal sufficiently large to give a reasonable life and so arranged as to keep cool.

As a summary, the neon letter is simply a glass tube, shaped as desired, with an electrode at each end, from which the air has been removed and the required amount of gas inserted. This is all that the average Service Man needs to know about the tubes themselves, as the actual building of the tubes is a separate trade in itself.

Window Signs

Some details in the design of neon signs - RF Cafe

Fig. 1 - Some details in the design of neon signs.

Construction of the sign in Fig. A - RF Cafe

Fig. 2 - The construction of the sign in Fig. A.

We will now take a typical window sign (Fig. 2) and follow its construction and installation. In this sign (Figs. A and 2) the letters in the word Logans are approximately 4 1/2 ins. high, and in the word bar approximately 8 ins. high. The border outline is approximately 8 ins. larger than the letter assembly. The layout man in the sign shop, usually the sign painter, lays out a full sized pencil sketch of the sign, including a notation of the color, or colors desired, i.e., wording red, border blue, all red, - red and gold or whatever combination is desired. The sketch is then sent to the glass blower; or, more frequently, to an outside plant specializing in neon tube work. The glass blower then shapes his glass to the pattern, sending back the units complete and ready for lighting. In this case, the assembly and outline is approximately as in Fig. 2. We receive from the glass blower three separate and complete units, border - Logan's - bar, anyone of which can be used alone, but which we now wish to shape into one assembly. Each unit is a continuous length of tubing with an electrode and wire terminals at each end. These units must be connected electrically in series and we will find the electrodes so shaped as to each be headed toward the electrode to which it is to connect. The circuit is as follows, one end of transformer secondary to one end of border unit, other end of border unit to one end of unit Logans, other end of unit Logans to one end of unit bar, other end of bar unit to second terminal of transformer secondary, making a complete series circuit.

Radio Interference

We now come to radio interference. This may be roughly divided into primary and secondary. Primary interference is caused usually by pick-up in the primary of the transformer, by the lines feeding into transformer, or, by a defective transformer. If the sign is on a separate circuit., at least a different circuit from that of the radio, and the sign is fed by a circuit run in a well-grounded metallic conduit, you will rarely have trouble from the primary source unless the transformer is defective. A line filter connected near the transformer and rated at 5 A. per transformer will usually be a positive check against primary interference provided that we have checked as to separate circuit and grounding.

The secondary source of interference is usually from either a defective secondary coil, pick-up from secondary wiring, pick-up from tubes, partial ground or short in secondary wiring, pick-up from back bends in tubing caused by difference in potential in these sections of glass, pick-up from suspension wires from which window signs are hung, or pick-up from metallic objects, such as metal ceiling, pipes, and so forth, in the immediate vicinity of the sign. The solution here is to ground out, or neutralize all points of possible pick-up. I suggest that the Service Man proceed as follows: always remembering that he is working on a simple electrical system that simply happens to be of high voltage, and with his theory of radio in mind, always looking for the most logical point in the particular installation from which he can expect radiation. We will first check both types of trouble on a window sign. The procedure is as follows; Turn the sign on to see if it is operating properly. If the sign runs fairly steady and without any serious sign of fluttering of the tubing, you can assume that as far as the tubing and transformer go you are O.K. If the sign only lights dimly, or in parts, you can assume a broken unit. The units can be tested with a neon tube tester that can be obtained, complete with directions, from any tube supply house, or by the following method: take a piece of high tension cable and jump across each unit in turn. When the defective unit is jumped the balance of the sign will light. The jumper must of course be connected from the wire of one of the electrodes at one end of the unit to the wire on the other end of the unit. If the entire assembly flutters badly, does not light at all or only in part and we find no defective unit, then it must be the transformer. Disconnect the secondary leads and with a high tension wire for a jumper touch the two secondary terminals. A good hot spark should result. If no spark results, or a weak one, get a new transformer. Most transformers above 7,000 V. are center tapped. In that case they should be tested from the case to each terminal in turn. This will test the two secondary coils. assuming that the sign is operating properly. We will now proceed to clear the radio interference. As we proceed, if any one of these clear the trouble, you, of course. go no further. First, make sure that the sign is running off a different circuit than the radio; second, make sure that the case of the transformer is grounded; third, tie several fine bare wires, (about number twenty-five) across the face of the glass; fourth, cross secondary leads coming from transformer to unit; fifth, break wire suspending sign in window and insert about a 6 in. section of waxed cord or ordinary twine; sixth, cut a 5 A. line filter in the primary circuit of the transformer as near as possible to the transformer. There is one type of installation that is liable to be quite troublesome, that is, where a sign is hung on a leaded glass window. In this case I would first solder fine wires to the leaded sections at four or five points near the sign, tie these wires together and run them to the nearest water pipe for a good ground, then see that the tubing is kept as far as is reasonably possible from the leaded glass.

With outside signs we proceed about the same as with the window sign. If the sign is on a flasher, filter the motor circuit of the flasher, and if necessary filter each primary circuit across the breaker points in the conventional manner. In general check all installation for these possible points of interference:

1 - Separate line circuit (at least separate from radio).

2 - Transformer and sign cases grounded. 3-Flashers filtered.

4 - Keep aerial away from sign.

5 - Supply line to sign in metallic conduit and grounded.

6- Fine wire ties across face of units.

7 - Loose secondary connections, or arcing to case of sign or other wire,

In special reference to window displays.

8 - Crossing secondary feeders.

9 - Cutting in insulators in suspension wires to stop further radiation from this point.

 

 

Posted May 31, 2022
(updated from original post on 11/23/2015)

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