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Interesting Juxtaposition - have you seen this? - RF Cafe Forums
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Rabble-Rouser
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Post subject: Interesting Juxtaposition - have you seen this?
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 1:29 pm
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Compare these two pictures and tell me what you
think: 1st this -
https://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004 ... 1058.shtml
(infamous Hanoi Jane photo) 2nd this -
https://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004 ... 4218.shtml
(not-so-infamous-but-becoming-infamous John Kerry
at Jane Fonda anti-war rally photo) Also,
does anyone else know that former Georgia Senator
Max Cleland, who is going around bashing Bush for
his Texas National Guard service, lost his three
limbs while in Vietnam, but it happened when he
picked up a grenade that was laying on the ground?
He was not in a combat situation, he just made a
bad decision to pick up something he saw on the
ground while walking with some friends to go polish
off a couple brewskies. He and the press try to
make it sound like he was the victim of a thrown
grenade in the heat of battle. Did anyone
else also know that by the time Bush was finished
with all his flight and crew training, that Nixon
had ended the hostilities, so Bush had no war to
go fight any more? Check the dates - the math is
easy.
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EWOK |
Post subject: What you said
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 5:20 pm
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Saw the pictures already. Sad fact is it won't matter
to most Americans because there is no sense of country
any more. The liberals have seen to that. Sad, but
true. You'll need to do better than that.
the EWOK
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Guest |
Post subject:
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 6:31 pm
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Nothing personal, but I really hope your wrong.
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jesteralternative |
Post subject: a little photoshop is dangerous
Posted: Thu May 06, 2004 9:21 pm
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Guest |
Post subject: Re: a little photoshop is dangerous
Posted: Sat May 08, 2004 8:49 am
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jesteralternative wrote:
The picture you describe is a fabrication.
https://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/kerry2.asp
In this age of photoshop and cheap computers
many things can be fabricated that never really
happened. It's a dangerous world, be careful.
The picture that
I referenced is definitelt
NOT a fabrication.
Kerry has actually acknowledged that one.
So, your information
is WRONG.
The picture you referenced
is definitely believed to be a fabrication, but
not the one I referenced. Sorry, you lose.
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Jesteralternative |
Post subject:
Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 2:13 pm
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References please.
If you follow my refererence,
it will lead you to an article written by the photographer
of the Fonda picture, and he explains why it is
a fabrication.
References please!
BTW
Even if it is real, and John Kerry was
on a podium with Jane Fonda in 1973, at least he
was a Vietnam combat veteran. Unlike George (Daddy
get me into the Air National Guard and leapfrog
150 better qualified applicants) Bush. Who once
in the Guard has not been able to account for the
last 8 months of his service, and after tax-payer
financed flight training, was taken off flight status
for not passing (or even taking for that matter)
a required physical. Stoned? Drunk? Or just plain
forgot?
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Anon |
Post subject: We've got references...
Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 7:49 am
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[quote="Jesteralternative"]References please.
Here's a source even you can appreciate. It
has a statement from Hanoi Jane herself saying John
Kerry was there and even spoke at the event. I also
has Kerry's campaign admitting that he was there.
https://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/kerry.asp
For your other statement about at least JFK
being in the military, you obviously overlook the
fact that he deplored and defamed his service in
the 60s and 70s, and even pontificated on the Senate
floor in Slick Willie's defense in the early 1990s
saying how military service is no a measure of a
person's fitness to be president. Now, every time
Kerry speaks he touts his Vietnam service.
He was ashamed of his military service, before
he was proud of it.
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Jesteralternative |
Post subject:
Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 8:59 am
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Let's see 1973.....................
Freedom
of association............................check
Freedom of speech..................................check
Everything seems in order.
2005.........................................
Freedom of association......................?
Freedom of speech............................?
At the rate we're going, it's anyone's guess.
I was once in a crowd that was cheering Barry
Goldwater (I was cheering too by the way. I think
Barry would be appalled by what is passing for Conservative
today). I once shook hands with Robert Kennedy.
Now lets suppose there were pictures of both of
those events? What would it mean if I were running
for office? Military service is not a qualifier
to be president or anything else. But I will state
this again, when your orders can put others in harms
way, you lose all moral authority, if you had the
opportunity once and you avoided it.
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Anon |
Post subject: Don't change the subject
Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 10:55 am
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Jester:
Your original arguement was that
the picture I referenced was a hoax. Now that you
have been proven wrong, you're changing the topic
to free speech.
Typical of your side.
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Jesteralternative |
Post subject:
Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 1:13 pm
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What do you mean 'typical of your side'?
The entire implication here has been that there
is something unsavory about Kerry, a documented,
decorated, Vietnam combat veteran, and Jane Fonda
sharing adjacent seats somewhere, sometime in 1973.
If that's bad, what exactly am I supposed to make
of the picture of Donald Rumsfeld shaking hands
with Saddam Hussain in 1983?
https://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/
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Anon |
Post subject:
Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 6:18 pm
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There he goes again...
You were wrong. Don't
change the subject.
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jesteralternative |
Post subject:
Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 9:09 pm
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Not changing the subject. I'm not sure you even
know what the subject is. I am going to politely
bow out now. I'm sure we'll meet again to disagree
on something else.
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Anon |
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 10:57 pm
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At least you are gentleman about it. Good day.
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Swift Boat Veterans |
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 3:57 pm
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It looks like the guys
that served with John F. Kerry (JFK) on the Switf
Boat don't recall his time spent quite the way he
does. The majority of them have joind a movement
to stop Kerry from using their organization as a
political prop. This group includes people across
the political spectrum and from all up and down
Kerry's chain of command.
Swift Boat Veterans
for Truth
https://www.swiftvets.com
Here's the press
release they wrote:
https://www.swiftvets.com/media1.htm
He
served 4 months out of a 12-month tour. He's a freaking
phony from the word go. At least Screaming Dean
never claimed to be a hero; come to think of it.
Dean's probably saved a lot more lives than Kerry
has, and never claimed to have personally engaged
in the commission of war atrocities.
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Anon |
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 12:05 pm
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Looks like there's not a whole lot of love from
Kerry's "Band of Brothers."
Gee, seems like
we haven't heard too much about Bush not having
his own BoB since this group of people that actually
knew and served with Kerry have opposed his efforts
to exploit them for poiltical gain. Maybe Kerry
was hoping theses guy had all died by now.
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