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Post subject: Would you go for a job interview abroad? Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 4:37 am
I have a question for you: Suppose you are working in a full-time position in your homeland and
actively seeking for a position overseas. You applied for positions abroad and sometimes being replied back. A
company schedules you a phone interview. Following the phone interview, which appears to be a successful one, that
company asks you to come for a face to face interview at a short notice (1 week or 2 weeks to the most).
You advise them beforehand (before the phone interview takes place) that you can't come to their country because
you are working in a full- time position and tight schedules, and your manager won't allow you to take a vacation.
The travel to that country can last between 4 days to over a week if there are no frequent flights to that
Furthermore, there is no guarantee that you will be hired, your job in your homeland is being
risked, you risk yourself in dismissal, you pay (not them!) for the travel and the associated expenses of it
(hotel, transportation etc) and all of this operation for an interview that will last how long: 2 hours, 3 hours
to the most? Mostly shorter than the flight time to one direction...
And today we live in the 21st century,
where almost everyone has a camera and voice aids (microphone and speakers) and can hold an interview through a
video conference without being required to travel thousands of miles away! Yet these companies seem to live and
behave like in the medieval ages, and haven't heard about today's technologies. These companies are oftern
telecom, RFIC and IT companies....
Please let me know your thoughts... and how you would act in this case.
Post subject: immigrantsPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:59 pm
everyone in north america came via immigration.
why should you be any differnet ?
Post subject: Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 12:50 am
Do me a favour, read the post again and then reply
Post subject: Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 12:09 pm
I you explain your
situation to the company abroad, and they still insist you come for a face-to-face interview maybe that's not the
kind of company you want to work for.
Post subject: Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 1:59
Yes, you are probably right. These people insisted to see me face to face despite my
explanations. They probably want to shake my hand to see that I am a real human being and not a cartoon from Walt
This is simply an outrage and disrespect towards an applicant. I wrtoe them a pungent email
and told them that everyone I know will be advised about the experience I had with them in order to spare it from
Unbelievable that such companies exist and hire people.
Any other replies shall be
Post subject: Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004
The mentioned company is Austriamicrosystems located in Austria. Their attitude towards applicants is
beyond redemption, as I mentioned in my first post. I advised them about my employment circumstances beforehand,
and they asked me to have a phone interview. At the end of the phone interview, I mentioned again this point.
Following the phone interview, they invited me to come to a face to face interview in short notice (at the
following week), although they knew about my limitations beforehand.
What comes out of this is that they
waisted my time on a false phone interview, during which they knew that I can't come and my circumstances wouldn't
change. And then they raised my limitation as an obstacle for the continuation of the recruitment process.
I am bringing here my epxerience with them, to spare you from having such an experience with them. Such a
company don't deserve the right to recruit and hire people.
Post subject: Posted:
Fri Dec 03, 2004 4:32 pm
If you are applying for an overseas position and are not prepared to meet with the
company leaders face to face then maybe you should look domesticly instead. Yes this is the age of cameras and
high speed internet connections but companies do not generaly hire without actually meeting face to face.
company has every right to recruit and hire based on their requirments and if a face to face is a requirment then
that is what it will take to obtain the position.
Post subject: Posted: Sat
Dec 11, 2004 2:04 am
Yes, you do have a point. However, a full time job is like a relationship. For example,
would you get married to someone based on a teleconference webcam and phone calls without ever seeing the person
face to face ?
you know, there are many things you can tell about a person just by standing in front of
them . It's not just about the your technical abilities you see .. A person that is a genius in his field is a
great thing, but if he is a snobbish one, then I wouldn't want to work with him or even hire him.
just my point of view. I'm not an employer and I don't own my own company, so I only reflect my opinion based on
being an employee.
Post subject: Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:01 am
If you see
a person and get to speak with him it is enough, if you think that shake his hand, smell his deodorant etc would
make you feel more secure that this is the right person, then you can go and work for this company .
gaining a position in a new company, means you have to risk your current job, being fired, ruin your reputation in
the market etc, then the new company you applied to is again narrow-minded, primitive and don't have the right to
recruit and hire people (and I think that its right to exist is doubtful too).
The current technologies
were made exactly for this purpose, to make the communication easier for people and spare them from traveling
thousand of miles just for speaking and seeing each other. A company which is not aware to these basic facts has
no right to exist. Gaining a new job is not supposed to be painful or hurting process it is just meant to screen
the right person for the job.
Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 1:46 pm
I think you are a whingeing sad pedantic git! Why on earth apply for a job abroad if you can’t travel and meet
them? If it is any consolation I personally would not work for austriamicrosystems because they are one of the
most paranoid companies I’ve ever come across.
Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 25,
2005 9:54 am
Yes you should work for Austiamicrosystems as you and them are made from the same stinking brown
material called crap
Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:09 pm
Be nice people.
Doesn't an engineer cost as much as a really nice car? Would you want to buy a car after
only seeing it in a video? Most people would want to see it in person. It is only reasonable.
Post subject: interesting storyPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:09 pm
What a story:
doesn't allow you time off? Why are you working there in the first place. Your job is in geopardy. Well that might
be a godsend for you to leave this place.
Your are going where there are few flights? Let me tell you that I
have never encountered in Europe or US a case where I had to pay for interviewing expenses. This is supposed to be
company cost as part of the hiring cost! If they are not willing to invest in the hiring process it doesn't bode
well for anything else after that. You should look elsewhere.
Like others here I do believe that technology or
not, after a phone or video conference it is necessary to meet face to face with the guys you will be working with
for a long period of time. It is a commitment to them as well as to you.
What you should do really all
depend on your personal motivations. My take on your posts is that it is not the company where you work that is
the most important to you but other factor like geography... etc. If what you do during the week-end and during
your free time is important to you it will guide you to what you should do.
Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:55 am
yes i agree . even when moving within the country for
interview, the company will pay the interview expences. i think that any abroad country will pay the interviewing
expences beforehand or at the time of interview. if u are applying for such a company which do not pay min
expences then u have chosen a wrong place to work.
when are so much busy in your project in the existing
company then u should forego applying for the new jobs. u should wait till u are free.
this is just my thought
and i strongly object on ur comments when u make after reading our thoughts.