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Because of the high maintenance needed to monitor and filter spammers from the RF Cafe Forums, I decided that it would be best to just archive the pages to make all the good information posted in the past available for review. It is unfortunate that the scumbags of the world ruin an otherwise useful venue for people wanting to exchanged useful ideas and views. It seems that the more formal social media like Facebook pretty much dominate this kind of venue anymore anyway, so if you would like to post something on RF Cafe's Facebook page, please do.

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rfguru
Post subject: How to deal with recruiters Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 11:17 am

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Joined: Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:29 pm
Posts: 2
My thoughts ont this: Putting your career future in the hands of recruiters is a recipe for disaster. Here are some tips to avoid pitfalls:

1) Add to resume "COMPANIES OR RETAINED RECRUITERS ONLY"
Why? Retained recruiters are paid by companies for a specifica search. COntingent recruiters are merely screening the web for current opening, just as yu would do.
Contingent recruiters take a cut in the hiring cost reducing your hiring bonus, salary etc.

2) Never provide names of colleagues. Unless they are really on the job market. Recruiters add more resumes to the pool by putting on the market people that were not otherwise looking. It decreases the leverage of the others that were really in the market for a new job. Lower competition for jobs is better for all of us. We are all "big boys"and are able to look for jobs when we are ready.

3) Never provide your resume in word format.
Why? A contingent recruiter would ask for it to put it in an automated scanner for any possible job in the universe. He/She will then "own" your future their hands. Since they "found" the job for you. This can screw any possible deal you are working on or will work on in the future.

In short bad recruiter signs:
- Asks for your resume in word format
- Asks for references (that won't be for the company but for their business)
- Tells you "I am working on many jobs that match your skills"

Better tips for a good career:
- Avoid recruiters
- Keep in touch with friends


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rfguru
Post subject: interesting statsPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:17 pm

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Joined: Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:29 pm
Posts: 2
Valid for high cost states (NJ, CA, NY, MA,...) in 2005
Average $98,000.00
Yrs
exper. Salary
0 $61,100.00
1 $64,200.00
2 $67,400.00
3 $70,800.00
4 $74,300.00
5 $78,000.00
6 $81,900.00
7 $86,000.00
8 $90,300.00
9 $94,800.00
10 $99,600.00
11 $104,500.00
12 $109,800.00
13 $115,200.00
14 $121,000.00
15 $127,100.00
>15 no further increase

Interestingly I read that after 10 years of experience only half of the graduates are still practicing engineering!!? that's a 7% reduction every year


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mshafer
Post subject: Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 4:35 pm

Colonel


Joined: Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:49 pm
Posts: 29
Location: Overland Park, Kansas
Agree with your comments on recruiters....so many are just out for themselves and don't really care if the position they recommend you for fits your skillset and needs.

Relationships with folks in industry helps big time, but what helps most is the level of diligent study you commit to daily in preparation for your future and current job.

The folks we call continual students are the most highly prized and after 10 years are the only ones that can truely call themselves engineers.

Another important things to point out, not just because I traded in my EE degree for my MBA, but a great engineer who isn't treated that way and given projects to build them, also will most likely leave engineering or be forced into consulting just to make a decent salary. Look at who you work for as closely as what projects you will be working on. See if you can get your potential peers at the new company to give you to real scoop on your future boss before you sign on....

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roc
Post subject: True Facts!!Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:37 pm

Lieutenant

Joined: Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:27 pm
Posts: 1
1. Some key paying jobs only deal with staffing corp.
2. If you are a civilian and want to get Secret Clearance, staffing corps are one way of getting it. Secret Clearance makes you more marketable.
3. A good recruiter will get you what you are worth. Tell them what you desire per hour and the good ones will get you that.

I know this because many of my friends are recruiters.

Just FYI







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