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Post subject: Can't get a job. What now?
Unread postPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 7:16 pm
Was employed in cellular about 2 years ago. No engineering work since then and only 2 interviews during that
I was hoping to get into RF circuit design, but it looks like I'm either overqualified (already have
an MS in semiconductors, which I was laid-off from 5 years ago), underqualified (all job ads say "5-10 yrs exp"
and I have 0 doing circuits), or been out of circulation too long. One prof recently told me that only techs and
guys with BSEEs do circuit designs, and that any moron monkey can do circuit design these days because it's all
done through software (is this true??).
Any advice? I don't even know what to re-train into if I was to go
back to school. Is anything hiring out there other than nursing and pharmacy? I like computers to some degree --
is it wise to get an MBA or an MBA with a computer systems specialization??
Any help appreciated, thanks.
Post subject: don't lose hope
Unread postPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 9:04 pm
Congrats on the MS. I feel you on the 5-10 yrs of experience (or lack of). Luckily I am currently
employed, doing design work (CADD), but have been hoping to turn that into an RF/MW design gig for some time.
Well, even though there's lots of software that can do alot in a little time, you still need to understand what it
is/is not doing... they're just machines, man, just machines (that goes for the software too). Most of my EE
friends turned MBA. They are all doing well. I feel the need to design.
I saw this on monster, haven't tried
Best of luck.
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Post subject: Re:
Unread postPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 6:46 pm
Joined: Sat Aug 30, 2003 6:43 pm
Hang in there old bean, things always get better. We're just beginning to experience what you Yanks have been
feeling for the last couple years. I say let's get that oil flowing in Iraq to get oil prices down and lower
transportation costs. It will help us all, don't you think so?
Unread postPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 4:23 am
Joined: Thu Jan 29,
2004 4:18 am
The only individual who does not have the right experience is the one who is not used
to a potential employee who is willing to work. Keep the faith.
Always remember - math
is YOUR friend;-)
Post subject: Lost Soul
Unread postPosted: Mon
Feb 09, 2004 3:53 pm
It is hard to get back into design after 5 years. In this day and age
companies only hire candidates with a track record in exactly the same design area. And it is NOT an easy stuff
for the techs and Bs (not where I am working). Where are the most senior and experienced engineers if not in
Your best bet is Application or Field Engineer etc... Where you can practice engineering without
designing directly. Why not try WLAN field engineer? (See the other thread)
Post subject: Re: Lost Soul
Unread postPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 4:51 pm
BUT "Application or Field
Engineer " also needs 5~10 DESIGN experience!!! What's next?
It is hard to
get back into design after 5 years. In this day and age companies only hire candidates with a track record in
exactly the same design area. And it is NOT an easy stuff for the techs and Bs (not where I am working). Where are
the most senior and experienced engineers if not in design????
Your best bet is Application or Field Engineer
etc... Where you can practice engineering without designing directly. Why not try WLAN field engineer? (See the
Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 7:18 pm
Well if any moron monkey can do RF design work, then a moron with a Master of Science should do that
better. So you can proclaim yourself to be the king of the moron monkeys.
Enjoy your lost career and future
and go make a Ph.D maybe it will help you be more educated looser than you are already now.
Post subject: Re:
Unread postPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 8:46 pm
Lost soul, have you
thought about relocating? I was unemployed for almost a year, but then decided to pull up stakes and relocate.
Found a job in a few months after that.
Ralph Zappa wrote:
Hang in there old bean, things always get
better. We're just beginning to experience what you Yanks have been feeling for the last couple years. I say let's
get that oil flowing in Iraq to get oil prices down and lower transportation costs. It will help us all, don't you
Hey Ralph, you've got a good point there. Now we know the real purpose of the war in Iraq.
Somebody put the squeeze on our friends in DC to lower transportation costs. Not only can we export our jobs for
the corporate traitors, but now we can sacrifice our beloved troops (spouses, parents, children) as well.
Post subject: Looking
Unread postPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 9:18 pm
Joined: Sun May 23, 2004 4:09 pm
Location: Pasadena, MD
Over the pass 3 months I have been hitting the market hard and now it is paying off. I have 2 back to back
interveiws next week in Maryland with others being set up in VA. Now my goal is to move out of this area but the
market is hot here (MD, DC, VA). If you're willing to relocate send me your resume and I'll pass it throughout the
RF Engineering community here. BTW my company may be looking for a new one if all goes well. hahahaha
it to email@example.com I hope I can help. Also look at Civil Service...
Sr. Communications Analyst
subject: lost soul, keep up your spirit
Unread postPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 1:38 am
Yappp. It is "all
done in software"... Obviously it does not work. When the utility programmers do not know what to do, here is a
nice chance for you.
Post subject: beg to differ
Unread postPosted: Fri Jul
09, 2004 2:38 pm
One prof recently told me that only techs and guys with BSEEs do circuit
designs, and that any moron monkey can do circuit design these days because it's all done through software (is
I had to chime in here. There is a lot more involved in a design than just a simulation.
Realizing a concept from idea to manufacturable product takes a myriad of skills and analysis techniques and
hardly has a closed form solution. It sounds to me like your prof has never done any real circuit design and is
speaking out of ignorance. A calculator made doing simple math easier. It is now a standard tool to do bigger and
better things. RF simulation is the same with the caveat that the simulation is as only as good as the models.
This is where your semiconductor experience comes into play. Getting an accurate model that can predict DC,
small signal, noise, and nonlinear effects is the holy grail of RF simulators. Semiconductor physics is the
fundenemental basis for these models. A lot of effort goes into developing these models to realize a first pass
design sucess AND predict statistical variations in the manufacturing processes involved.
Send your resume
to DocWebster@comcast.net and I'll pass it on to our modelling group.
Post subject: DW
Unread postPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 4:48 am
Are they hiring anyone else
where you work ?