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Extreme
Post subject: puls reshaper Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:08 pm

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Hi all,

Let me tell you what circuit i need.
I am working on a transmitter with very lage fets.
It is a push-pull design,where the fets are going te be driven by fet drivers.
So i need 2 ttl signals
1 in phase,and 1 180 degrees out of phase.(3.5-7MHz)
The push-pull design is class E,so i need a perfect 50% duty-cycle.

Just got a DDS with a on board schmitt-trigger for creating asquare wave.
But this has ofcourse no 50% duty-cycle.
My knowlidge of logic components is only very basic,so i can not design a circuit myself.

Anyone who can give give some ideas?
Thanks a lot!


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nubbage
Post subject: Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:40 am

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Hi
The way this is usually done is to run the clock at twice the desired output frequency using the usual feedback gate arrangement in TTL (74LS). That generates a logic clock at 2*F
Then drive a D-Type toggle in 74LS, and the output will be at F, with a mark space ratio of 1:1, with very little width error.
BTW: the load capacitance of high power FETS at HF is high and so you will need a large load driving current capability in the drivers. (I = dQ/dT)


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Extreme
Post subject: Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:31 pm

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Thanks for your reply Nubbage!

I understand the concept now.
First double and the split.

The last part of splitting with a D flip-flop is no problem.
Just played with it last week.

But can you descibe the part of doubling a little more?
Or maybe a link with an example?

You are right about the drive current of the fets.
I use very large fets...FQA11n90 with high capacitance at the gate.
Just got some IXDD414(TO220) from the USA,they should do the job.
1 driver could drive 2 fets at 3.5MHz and 1 driver/fet for 7MHz.
The class E goeroe from classeradio.com did it so it has to work

Bert


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nubbage
Post subject: Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 4:36 am

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Hi extreme
If your output bit rate is critical, and you have some sort of reference clock, then phase-lock a feed-back gate clock generator to that reference, but running at 2*F. If rate is not critical, then just free-run the 2*F clock. It could be any of a range of feed-back type NAND gate pulse generators in TTL 74LS gates. When the output is fed into a D-type flip-flop, on the D port (or maybe the clock port, I can't recall the exact arrangement) then you get 1*F output with an exact 1:1 M/S ratio.
I have a logic circuit somewhere here, and I will look it out, scan it, and upload it later today. I have seen this used for a 3.5MHz Weaver type SSB transceiver, in an RSGB (UK) publication "Radcom".


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IR
Post subject: Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 3:40 pm

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JKFF (JK Flip Flop) in which both J and K are tied to '1' will divide the frequency by 2.

This arrangement is called T (Toggle) FF

Here is an example:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hb ... pflop.html

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Extreme
Post subject: Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 1:52 pm

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Thought i had it ....for very short time

I made a doubler from a 74hc86 XOR(quad)
Used 3 for a delay,and the last for doubler.

Followed by a 74HC74 D-flipflop,also worked fine as a divider.

But no 50% duty-cycle....got the same signal back

Now i see the problem,the pulses out of the XOR do not start at the same period.
So the flip-flop toggles me almost the same signal back.

Anyone other options to get me 50% duty-cycle?

Greetings Bert


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nubbage
Post subject: Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 9:45 am

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Hi Extreme
I have found one of my circuits buried in the archive her at Nubbage Labs, one that uses a JK flipflop rather than a D type.
Tie the J and K together to the positive supply as an enable.
Feed the double frequency into the clock input, and look at the signal on Q or Not Q.
The other circuit uses a D type FF. The 2*F circuit is just as you have done, with 4xXOR, then the output of this feeds the clock line of the FF, the Not Q feeds the D input, and the output at F is taken from the Q output with a 1:1 MS ratio.
That's what the original designer said, anyway. This came from a Electronic Design Ideas magazine.
I will look for more.


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nubbage
Post subject: Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 9:49 am

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After thought: maybe you need to follow the first D type with a second D type connected as before, Not Q to D and output of previous D FF to the clock line..





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