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Post subject: Winding ratio in IF transformer Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:42 pm
Joined: Fri May 19, 2006 5:01 am
building a radio, I am wondering: why do all IF transformers I see have a near 1:1 winding ratio? This goes for
both single-tuned and doubled-tuned transformers. Couldn't they get more gain by using say a 1:2 ratio? I could
only see one objection: more windings -> more self-capacitance -> self-resonance may get too near operating
frequency. Why don't they use more secondary windings?
Thanks in advance,
Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:35 pm
Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2005
I guess that the reasons for that could be:
1. Maintaing the same impedance along the IF chain.
2. 1:1 Transformers have the widest BW available.
Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:12 pm
Fri May 19, 2006 5:01 am
Thanks for your reply. I
really want to make sure I understand this, so I hope you don't mind this follow-up.
1) How can you talk
of impedance when either side of the transformer is an LC tank?
2) What is the reason for this? (if this is
textbook material, please refer me to a good textbook :) )
Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:13 pm
Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:02
Transformers are located not only between resonance
tanks but also between filters and amplifiers to maintain the charactieristic impedance (1:1) or to perform
There are very good application notes in RF Cafe elaborating about transformers
In general, if you increase the number of turns or the frequency of operation in transformer you
reduce the flux. Therfore, reducing the number of turns will give you a wider BW.
Post subject: Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:20 am
Joined: Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:07 pm
Location: London UK
Hi Charl et al
A good exposition on resonant single and coupled
circuits, ie tuned transformers, is given in Terman "Radio Engineering" Chapter 3.
If 2 windings are resonant
and the number of turns is in a reasoanable ratio, say 3 to 1, then the Q is approx the same. The dynamic
impedance of each side at resoance is 2*pi*f*L*Q
If Q is roughly equal on each side, then the impedance ratio
is the same as the inductance ratio, which is the square of the turns ratio. This simplistic argument does not
take account of coupling coefficient, but this is fully shown in the Terman textbook. If therefore the number of
turns on the secondary is increased, the load impedance will have to be very high for maximum power transfer.
Whilst the resistive part of many solid state device impedances is high (IGFETs for example) the capacitive
reactance is very low at high frequencies. Thus the resonant secondary will be dominated by high and temperature
variable capacitance of the following stage input load.
Impedance of parallel RLC circuitPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:14 pm
Joined: Tue Jan 13,
2009 3:06 pm
can you tell me how to calculate impedance of parallel RLC circuit? if I have a
L=1.2uH, C=72p, R=1.2k in parallel what will be the Impedance?[/quote]