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Post subject: Variable filter circuit design. Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:40 pm
Joined: Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:39 pm
hello guys, I am new here.
glad to find such a good forum.
I am working on a project "optical listening device" whicn could be able
to monitor the status of chmical pipes. we use a photodiode to detect the reflected laser beam by the mirror which
is attached to the pipe. Then we gonna to analyze the siganl detected in terms of frequency.(Any fluid has a
certain frequncy when it is flowing, any abstacle in the pipe will slow down the fluid and then change the
our proposal is that we use a band pass filter to get rid of the noise and only focus on the
spectrum that indicates the normal status of the pipes. This filter also acts as a refernce, which could
distinguish the normal and abnormal(say the pipe is blocked) status in the pipe.And then we have to biuld a
variable filter to detect the rest of the spectrum.
but now i am not clear how the variable filter works
and how to compare the signal received and the reference signal, and then trigger an alarm if any abstacle in the
pipes slow down the fluid too much or completely block the pipe.
looking forward to your reply.
Post subject: Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:06 pm
Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:02 pm
Welcome to RF
Cafe Circuits Forum!
To answer your question the technology of implementing a filter depends pretty much on
the frequency of operation, required bandwidth (BW) and other paramaters. It doesn´t necessarily has to be a
classic variable RF Filter - most common one that comes to mind is by using Varactor Diodes. You can implement a
filter by DSP (FIR, IIR) or an active filter with switched capacitors... in order to help you more please provide
more information about the frequencis you work with the BW of operation etc..
You can compare between the
detected and reference signals by different magnitudes: If the detected signal points over a blocked pipe, it will
be out of the filter's pass region and therefore attenuated. The amount of attenuation points on how much the pipe
is blocked..You have to tune the filter for that.
Post subject: Variable FilterPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:28 pm
Joined: Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:51 pm
Here's another approach, based on
defining your requirements:
You mention eliminating undesired noise. Have you categorized and described
that noise? Is it constant or does it change? Is the noise correlated to the change you're trying to observe?
Do you know the frequency and bandwidth of the signal you're trying to observe? DSP techniques work well at
lower RF frequencies, and adaptive filtering is quite advanced in that area, but it is sample-rate limited,
Over what range must the filter be tuned? A 1% variation is a lot easier than a 200% variation, especially at
Is filtering even the correct approach? Maybe spectrum analysis is
better, given your needs.
Post subject: Variable Filter Circuit DesignPosted:
Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:01 am
Joined: Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:07 pm
I agree with Fred47.
This looks more like a job exactly right for Fast Fourier Transform
processing, or DSP, but a final choice would depend on the essential parameters already mentioned.
such a software suite running on an industrial grade rugged PC, most of the electronic design is done, leaving you
to concentrate on a roofing filter and low noise pre-processing front-end.