Custom Search
Over 9,000 pages indexed!
Your Host
Click here to read about RF CafeKirt
Blattenberger

... single-handedly
redefining what an
engineering website should be.

View the YouTube RF Cafe Intro Video Carpe Diem!
(Seize the Day!)

5CCG (5th MOB):
My USAF radar shop

Hobby & Fun

Airplanes and Rockets:
My personal hobby website

Equine Kingdom:
My daughter Sally's horse riding business website - lots of info

Doggy Dynasty:
My son-in-law's dog training business

•−•  ••−•    −•−•  •−  ••−•  •
RF Cafe Morse Code >Hear It<
Job Board
About RF Cafe©
RF Cafe E-Mail
Product & Service
Directory
Engineering
Jobs
Personally Selected
Manufacturers
Employers Only
(no recruiters)
CPW Calculation - RF Cafe Forums
Because of the high maintenance needed to monitor and filter spammers from the RF Cafe Forums, I decided that it would be best to just archive the pages to make all the good information posted in the past available for review. It is unfortunate that the scumbags of the world ruin an otherwise useful venue for people wanting to exchanged useful ideas and views. It seems that the more formal social media like Facebook pretty much dominate this kind of venue anymore anyway, so if you would like to post something on RF Cafe's Facebook page, please do.

Below are all of the forum threads, including all the responses to the original posts.


ljoseph
Post subject: CPW Calculation Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:16 pm

Captain


Joined: Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:54 am
Posts: 13
Location: Dallas
Hello
With the following parameters, I am getting different answers with different tools.
H = 0.3mm
Er = 4.25
W = 0.56mm
T= 32.5um
gap = 0.35mm
Freq 1842 Mhz

With this Agilent Appcad gives 50.2 ohms. AWR Tx line gives 47 ohms.
Following online calculator gives 78 ohms.
http://www1.sphere.ne.jp/i-lab/ilab/tool/cpw_e.htm

Don't understand the reason for this difference.


Top

Jeanalmira
Post subject: Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:01 am

General


Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:43 pm
Posts: 65
Location: Singapore
Hi ljoseph,

the difference is the ground plane.
I believe that for your first calculation (AppCad and AWR) you included the groundplane (CPW ground)
While the online calculator is without ground plane.

you can double check the setting thru AppCad and also AWR (CPW and CPW ground).

Hope it helps.

Regards,
Jean


Top

imodelit_moderator
Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:40 am

Captain


Joined: Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:01 am
Posts: 22
Dear ljoseph,

I'm with Jeanalmira in his opinion. As for the lower impedance values you used -most probably- Grounded-Coplanar. While the larger values is for the conventional coplanar waveguide -without lower ground plane-.

Kindly check this online applet, it is for conventional coplanar waveguide.
http://imodelit.com/ViewDetails.aspx?AID=190 Thanks.

Best Regards,
imodelit Moderator







Posted  11/12/2012

RF Cafe Software

RF Cascade Workbook
RF Cascade Workbook is a very extensive system cascaded component Excel workbook that includes the standard Gain, NF, IP2, IP3, Psat calculations, input & output VSWR, noise BW, min/max tolerance, DC power cauculations, graphing of all RF parameters, and has a graphical block diagram tool. An extensive User's Guide is also included. - Only $35.
RF system analysis including
frequency conversion & filters

Smith Chart™ for Excel
Smith Chart™ for Visio
RF & EE Symbols Word
RF Stencils for Visio

A Disruptive Web Presence

Custom Search
Over 9,000 pages indexed!
Read About RF Cafe
Webmaster: Kirt Blattenberger
KB3UON

Product & Service Directory
Personally Selected Manufacturers

RF Cafe T-Shirts & Mugs
Calculator Workbook
RF Workbench
Please Support My Advertisers