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 Post subject: Obama's church changes its website
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:05 am 
 
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I suppose I would do the same thing if I were them. The truth is that unfortunately this is the mindset of many - maybe the majority - of the Black churches in the United States. They are overtly and proudly anti-White. They preach hate against Whitey from the pulpits, and the IRS does nothing to them for fear of being called racist - the ultimate irony. The new website has a video with a White woman on the still screen. Hmmm....guess that proves they're not really racists.

Fortunately, Archive.org keeps copies of webpages for many many moons.

https://web.archive.org/web/200708100103 ... /about.htm

Here is the original text, which among other things, proclaims their allegience to the continent of Africa, not America.

We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.

The Pastor as well as the membership of Trinity United Church of Christ is committed to a 10-point Vision:

A congregation committed to ADORATION.
A congregation preaching SALVATION.
A congregation actively seeking RECONCILIATION.
A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA.
A congregation committed to BIBLICAL EDUCATION.
A congregation committed to CULTURAL EDUCATION.
A congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA. [scattering]
A congregation committed to LIBERATION.
A congregation committed to RESTORATION.
A congregation working towards ECONOMIC PARITY.

Here are the original "Talking Points" in the link at the bottom of the page.

https://web.archive.org/web/200708100102 ... points.htm


But hey, don'y worry about it. Be happy.

Diogenes the Cynic - still searching for an honest man


 
   
 
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:39 am 
 
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From what I've seen, the hateful, anti-America rehtoric coming from Black churches is not so different that what comes from the mosques in America and around the world. This is mainstream Black church practice - just watch a couple minutes of the cable channels in a big city like NCY, Chicago, or Atlanta. It appears that there is a gigantic anti-White movement afoot.

Idiot politicians will one day find their throats cut by the very groups that they are enabling now. The same kind of anti-America, anti-White hate is overwhelmingly promoted in our prisons. Taxpayers are funding these places through the tax exempt status of the institutions and ability of members to deduct donations. The U.S. government is quite literally funding a fifth column that is openly engaging in sedition.

Is anybody else worried about this?


 
   
 
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:27 am 
 
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The Black Liberation Theology movement was begun in the 1960s, and has evolved into a Malcom X philosophy of the White man being "the Devil." According to BLT, the White man is the root of all the problems of the world - only non-whites are pure - and Whites should be killed. Listen to Obama's pastor Wright and he literally says that. Man, I'm Hispanic (not white) and I can see the fallacy in this racist agenda. My ancestors (2 generations back) are from the Eurpoean side of the Mediterranean. Maybe they're p***ed off that the White Europeans basically created the industrialized world by spreading technology. Yeah, they colonized and ruled with an iron fist, I'll give you that. But in those areas there was already generations of tribal fighting and slavery among the indigenous people, it's just that the Europeans were stronger. Even today the tribal fighting on the African continent is rampant - can't blame that on Whitey. I agree with maxwell that we'd better watch out. The rest of the world would love Obama as president of the United States because he personifies the hatred of America without acknowledging all the good we have done. - My two cents worth.

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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:53 pm 
 
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Here's typical lib hypocracy for you.

Obama’s Former Pastor Getting $1.6M Home in Retirement

Anybody care to guess what the carbon footprint is for a 10,000+ ft^2 house in Chicago? Is this what whitey did to him? How are these blatent racists able to get away with it time after time? How many Black children will go hungry in Chicage while this guy and his wife live in a 10,000 ft^2 house? What good has his preaching of hatred towards everybody non-black done for Black people? Our prisons and inner cities are full of people that think like him. How long will we be expected to pay reparations for something no person alive today is responsible for? Weren't Israelites and other races held as slaves in Egypt and other African nations? Where are the reparations for that? Rev. Wrong is as dangerous as any radical muslim imam, and our government just lets it keep on, at tax-payer expense. My god, when will this end?


 
   
 
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:10 pm 
 
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What a bunch of crap that is. It has been no surprise to me to hear of this. I've worked in a couple big cities and I can tell you there is a deep hatred of Whitey in the US. The politicians let the seething hatred go unchallenged because for some reason they blame me and every other white person who has never owned a slave. Neither have my parenets, or their parents, or their parents...


Condeleeza Rice made a comment the other day about America having a "birth defect" referring to slavery at our founding. It was not Americans who started the slave trade here, it was the English and the French. It was the Americans who finally abolished it. The Blacks should be petitioning the UN for reparations against the French and English.

The trillions of dollars that have been poured into inner cities for the Black familes has largely been a waste as evidenced by the abject failure of the Black community to help itself. Instead it keeps its collective hand out and demands more money. A poll done not that long ago shows that most Blacks say that eveen if reparations are paid that still isn't enough. We can't win, so why bother at all?

To listen to the "leaders" speak, you would think that the only reason America succeeded at all was because of them working in the fields. As if nothing anybody else did had anything to do with America's success. Forget all the scientists and doctors and engineers and educators and industry... it was the guy in the field with the hoe that built America. That's not to say they had othing to do with it, but let's get real here.

Now we have illegals telling us that they are responsible for America's greatness, all while they fill our jails, schools, courts, and take our jobs, while the same spineless politicians kiss their donkeys for votes. This country is going down bigtime and the weasel people just sit on their fat hineys and do nothing about it. What will it take for people to wake up and save America before it's too late?

We can only hope that McCain has a stroke or something and has to drop out of the race. I dread the thought of what this country wil be like under Hussien Obama or Hillary Rodam. Buckle your seatbelts kids, we're in for a wild ride. ](*,)




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